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How much potassium and other nutrients are removed when alfalfa is harvested? In this presentation, Chris Bandura, UW–Madison Extension soils program manager, shares early results from a statewide project evaluating nutrient uptake and removal in alfalfa fields across Wisconsin, with a focus on improving fertilizer recommendations and potassium management.
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All right.
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Thank you very much, Melissa.
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Kevin, well done setting us up on the the
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alfalfa topic for today.
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Thanks everyone online for being here today.
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I am very excited to kind of introduce and and present and provide an overview
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on this this project that a number of people have been working on.
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So the title of the talk is actually the title of a, a,
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a research proposal that we submitted to the Dairy Innovation Hub last fall
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through their short term high impact grant program.
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Long story short, research team gets a year to go and, and,
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and do a thing in the field and, and come up with some pretty impactful
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results.
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And so we were lucky enough to be awarded with some, some funds to do this work.
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So really what we’re going to be focusing in on today is looking at alfalfa
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nutrient uptake and alfalfa nutrient removal rates.
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So how much nutrients is being removed per one ton of alfalfa dry matter?
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Also right off the top, like to thank Co-PIs Doctor Marta Kohmann
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and Luanna Queiroz for their support in this project.
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OK, let’s see here.
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Here we go.
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All right, so our game plan today, I’m gonna,
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I’m gonna spend a fair bit of time just kind of walking through the background of
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of where this project came from, what we’re doing, why we’re doing it,
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how we’re doing it.
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And then I’ll give you a quick sneak peek at some preliminary results.
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It is by no means going to be a thorough overview of all the information we’ve
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collected, but we only have 25 minutes to air today.
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So we’ll take what we can get and then I’ll leave you just kind of with what are
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with what are game plan is on the project moving forward.
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And so, so why, why do this alfalfa nutrient removal
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assessment project?
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Why, why are we doing that now?
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So rewind the clock back to last summer and last fall, a team of us here at UW,
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we’re working through updating the corn and soybean grain phosphorus and
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potassium soil test interpretation levels, P&K removal rates in those crops.
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So how much P or K per bushel of grain and then ultimately the fertilizer
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recommendation rates for those two crops.
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So we were working through that meeting with different stakeholders and partners
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and, and, and audiences such as those in the venue
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here today.
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And, and almost every time we gave the, the presentation where we, we,
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we updated these corn and soybean things related to P&K,
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it almost never failed.
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We would get a response such as cool, when are you looking at alfalfa almost
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like, you know, copy that.
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Great.
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That’s all fun and fine and dandy.
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Let’s talk about alfalfa.
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And sidebar, corn silage is another crop of interest
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by folks.
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So specifically when folks are asking us to, you know,
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consider looking at updating or at least evaluating some of these nutrient
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removals and soil test levels and things for, for alfalfa,
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really where where a lot of people were focusing was on potassium.
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A lot of sentiment from, from the last fall discussions and
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presentations as well as the previous eight years of,
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of my professional journey working at a soil testing lab in my previous life.
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A lot of folks that that I would talk to and work with,
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with their soil test results that are, that are trying to manage alfalfa fields
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are just struggling with potassium management.
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And specifically, you know, folks that were,
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that were trying to apply university recommended potash rates to either build
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or maintain soil test potassium and they were just struggling to do so.
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And so there, there were some questioning as to whether
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these removal rate assumptions that are built into the UW fertilizer guidelines
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are still accurate.
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They’re reflective of reality.
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So we’ll cover more of that.
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And so I guess the answer of when are you looking at alfalfa,
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I guess that answer is now.
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Again, hat tips, shout out and much appreciation to the
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Dairy Innovation Hub for their support.
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So we’re going to go through here what is being done, how it’s being done.
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And then also I really want to give a shout out to the who and where the work
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is being done.
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So to kind of start off early this growing season 2026 prior to alfalfa
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growth really ramping up for the year for first crop,
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we are our project collaborators, partners if you will,
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went out to the farm fields that were identified for the project and collected
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a zero to 6 inch soil fertility sample.
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We we were just trying to document current fertility status in these fields
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prior to rapid nutrient uptake by the alfalfa crop.
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So this is kind of a baseline soil test then that the number 2 here.
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So just prior about three to five days prior to the farm taking first, second,
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third, fourth, in some cases 5th crop later on here as
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the as the fall comes in our, our partners,
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the project collaborators are going out to these farm fields and collecting
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alfalfa biomass samples at a 2 inch cutting height from a defined area.
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Some, some cases it’s three square foot, 3 1/2 square foot, 4 square feet.
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This kind of depends on the equipment that that the partner has.
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And so by collecting that fresh biomass in a defined area,
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we are able to determine fresh yield per acre, if you will.
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So after collecting those alfalfa biomass samples,
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they’re sent off to Dairyland Laboratories in this project’s case where
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we are getting that alfalfa tested for moisture content and total nutrient
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analysis.
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So phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium and a couple other secondary
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and micronutrients.
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And so the number four, once we have now dry matter yield and
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nutrient concentration, we can determine total nutrient uptake by
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that alfalfa crop on a per acre basis.
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And then at least personally, most interestingly,
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we can look at alfalfa nutrient removal rates.
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So how much phosphorus per ton of dry matter was taken up or how much potash
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per ton of dry matter was taken up.
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And those are some of the pieces of information that we need to evaluate the
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current university fertilizer recommendations.
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OK.
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And then lastly #5 what we’ve been doing along the way is,
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is compiling all of this data from across the study.
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We’re, we’re trying to share things back with
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our project partners and host farms kind of on the fly.
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And we’re evaluating some of the data as we go.
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But the one thing, the one, you know, focus thing that we’re really trying to
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do throughout this project in, in this on farm research project is to
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have timely results sharing.
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And so we’ve got an effort where once all of the information comes back from the
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lab, say for first cutting, we compiled all of the first cutting
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alfalfa data, soil sample data and created a field
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summary report and that we would send back for a particular farm and field.
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And so that report we show the field average yield, nutrient concentrations,
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nutrient total uptake and then nutrient removal rates.
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And it would also show their field averages right next to the whole project,
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the study wide averages, if you will, just as a point of comparison to other
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alfalfa fields in, in the state.
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So just a, a quick snapshot of how we’re doing this
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data collection, this sample collection.
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So on the left, you’ve got that black, black square there that’s representing an
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alfalfa field.
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And then you you see 3 little green squares randomly placed throughout and
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those are identifying or representing those three random sampling points.
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So starting back at just prior to first crop being cut by the farm,
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the project partners’ boots on the ground help here went out and identified 3 sub
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sample locations and they either flagged them or GPS referenced them.
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And so every subsequent cut throughout the rest of the growing season,
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they would go back to those same 3 points and take that cutting sample.
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So we’re collecting biomass from approximately the same three parts of
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that field all season long.
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And then just to note on the soil sampling,
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the preseason or the early season soil and the postseason soil will be collected
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the same way where 4 cores are being collected around each of those 3 alfalfa
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sampling points.
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So 12 total cores being collected from across that field and those are being
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mixed and composited and sent off to the lab.
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So the objective by doing some replication and spreading things out a
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little bit is to capture some real world variability in yield and soil conditions
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and nutrient uptake and so on.
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This is my favorite slide in the entire presentation.
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This really does a nice job showing how collaborative this project has been.
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You know, I’ve been in the trenches behind the
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scenes on this project since day one, and it wasn’t until I really started kind
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of mapping this out and putting some numbers together for for you all today
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that I just really realized how many different people and farms are involved
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in this project.
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So the stars that are on this this map here, this Wisconsin counties map,
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what this is indicating is, is if a county has a star in it,
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that means there’s at least one field, alfalfa field being sampled as part of
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this project.
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I counted these yesterday, 10, 15.
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I there’s 21 counties being represented in this project,
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So very wide geographic coverage.
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All right.
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So the kind of the breakdown here, we have soil and alfalfa samples being
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collected from 53 unique fields on 40 individual farms by 17 different people
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from 7 different organizations.
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OK.
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So there’s, there’s again a lot of moving parts and a
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lot of people involved in this effort.
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Of the 40 individual farms, 38 are real working farm,
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two are just pretend agricultural research stations that the university
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manages.
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I’m just kidding.
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So Ashley Blackburn and Mike Bertram, if you’re watching, I’m just joking,
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2 university farms also participating in this effort as well.
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So again, a a good variety of management, soils, environments,
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so on and so forth being represented.
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Of course, we’ve got university extension staff
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involved.
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This is our boots on the ground people.
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So extension staff, county land and water departments have
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folks out there and a couple independent consultants from the state as well.
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We have a formal partnership with the Wisconsin Alfalfa Yield and Persistence
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program that Mike Bertram facilitates.
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I think they’re in their 20th year if I’m not mistaken.
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They’re sampling alfalfa on a much larger scale where you know, say pick,
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pick an alfalfa field, every wagon or every chopper box,
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what have you comes off that field is getting weighed.
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They’re taking a grab sample from those, from those wagons and sending that to the
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lab for forage quality.
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In this WAYP program this year, we’ve asked, hey,
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can we provide funding to have you add the, the nutrient analysis that,
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that we need to determine total nutrient uptake and all those things.
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So we’ve been able to, to partner with, with that program and we’re very thankful
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for that opportunity as well.
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And the last partnership I want to highlight, so Drs. Marta Kohamann,
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Brian Luck, Francisco Arriaga and probably a couple
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others that I ought to know off the top of my head.
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I’ve been working for several years doing a lot of research in the effect of
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machinery traffic, i.e. compaction on alfalfa production.
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Again, the, these funds from Dairy Innovation Hub and
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this project are able to then support those efforts to get a nutrients analysis
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tested from those research plots.
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And so they’ll be able to look at the effect of machinery traffic and soil
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compaction on alfalfa and nutrient uptake.
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And I think that’ll be a really powerful add for for them and for for this project
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as well.
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So again, just thank you right up front here to all
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the different people and farms, host farms that are involved in this
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project.
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So, all right, so that’s kind of the the quick elevator
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over elevator pitch overview of the project.
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I’m just going to show a little bit some of the preliminary results.
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My disclaimer here because the project is only part way through,
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everything here is subject to change, whether it’s a number,
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an approach that we’re taking to analyze the data, so on and so forth.
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This is very preliminary and it’s certainly not going to be a comprehensive
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overview of all the data today.
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We’re just going to zoom in on potassium.
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So just step back a minute and think about how does this project tie into
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potassium management in alfalfa in general?
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So if we ask the question, what goes into an alfalfa hay fertilizer
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recommendation today in Wisconsin, kind of a three-part equation.
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So the first step is having a soil test and we interpret that soil test and we’re
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going to be looking at something very low through excessively high.
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All right.
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And depending on where that that soil test K level is at,
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our approach to fertilization changes.
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And so in Wisconsin, we use a philosophy that has three
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different components.
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1 is a, a, a build where we’re trying to build soil
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test levels from something that is low or very low up into that optimum range.
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We have a maintain approach.
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So if we’re testing in that optimum range, our objective is to stay in that optimum
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range.
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And so we’re going to fertilize really just that expected crop removal of
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potassium.
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And the, the, the assumption there is that if we just
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apply what the crop is going to use, our soil test level shouldn’t change much.
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We should stay in that optimum range.
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And then if we’re testing high or very high,
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we we have a drawdown approach where we’re still going to apply a little bit
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of potash or potassium, whatever your source is,
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but to a lesser extent than full crop removal with the objective of slowly
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drawing that soil test level down into that optimum range.
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OK, so soil test starts us off.
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Then the second piece is we want to have some realistic yield goal assumption
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being made.
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So is this a, a two or three ton system for the year?
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Is it a 5 or 6 ton across all the cuttings for the year?
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What do we think we’re going to realistically get?
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And then what’s really relevant for today is,
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is what I’m calling this K2O removal assumption.
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So again, how many pounds of of potassium are we
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removing per one ton of dry matter yield produced?
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And so currently in our university guidelines,
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we have an assumption of 60 lbs of K2O being removed per one ton of alfalfy dry
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matter.
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Doctor Marta Kohmann, Co-PI on the project,
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has some some other data from the state unpublished preliminary kind of
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observational from the Prairie du Sac and Arlington areas.
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If I’m recalling correctly, where they they saw these removal
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coefficients or removal rates ranging from 74 to 81,
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so a little bit higher than what’s currently in the university guidelines.
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And so, so in for, you know, this is specifically what we’re really
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trying to address on the potassium end of things in this study is,
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is that assumption of 60 lbs of K2O per acre still reflective of reality on
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working alfalfa farms across the state because and,
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and we’ll come back to it later, this crop removal piece.
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So the yield times, the amount of K removed per unit of yield,
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that’s the single biggest chunk, if you will,
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of the total application rate recommendation.
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If we’re trying to build soil test levels up,
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it’s the crop removal piece plus maybe 30 to 45 lbs or 45 to 60 lbs extra.
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But that crop removal piece is a really big deal.
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It’s a huge component.
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So it’s in our best interest to kind of have a good understanding of what reality
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is.
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And so diving into some of the some of the relevant info to to address that
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today, just give you an idea of the the yield
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that we’re seeing in the project.
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So from the first crop we had 35 fields were sampled that we’re including in
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today’s data set, 114 total samples being represented here.
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The average yield, dry matter yield was about two ton per
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acre.
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And I have this thing called the typical range that’s this is the middle 50% of
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the data.
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So across all 114 samples, the middle 50% yield range from 1.66 to 2.
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And, and so you can, you can see the range we have some lower
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yielding environments, some higher yielding environments.
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And I should also note that none of these are first year or seeding year alfalfa
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stands.
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These, these are all at least in their first
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full production year or older.
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I’ll throw that out there as well.
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2nd crop.
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As expected, we see the the average dry matter yield a
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little bit lower than first crop down to about a ton and a half of dry matter with
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a range of 1.1 to 1.7.
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You’ll notice that the number of fields and the number of samples included here
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are lower than from first crop.
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One of the realities with on farm research is that you can make a plan and
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you think you’re going to get out there and get your sampling done or your
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treatments applied or whatever the thing is.
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And then life happens.
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Reality on the farm happens, schedules get busy,
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communication breaks down.
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We’re not going to cry over spilled milk.
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This stuff happens in on farm research.
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So we just we missed a few a few sampling windows before,
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before the field had to get knocked down and and hay had to get made.
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So that’s why those numbers are a little bit different.
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OK, so diving into the the this K2O removal
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coefficient or these removal rates again A28O9 currently has an assumption of 60
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lbs. per ton.
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Looking at first crop, we see the average across all fields and
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samples.
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The average was 73 lbs per ton and that typical range again that middle 50% was
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63 to 82 OK for second crop.
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The average was 80 lbs per ton with a range of about 70 to 90.
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And so and then the average across both both 1st and 2nd crop was 75 ± 10.
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OK.
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So one other interesting thing that I’ll note here.
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We’re talking averages and these typical ranges and all that.
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One of the things that’s commonly done certainly in the corn and soybean world
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when we’re talking about these removal rates,
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but I think it’s also happened in in this alfalfa space as well,
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is that researchers doing this kind of work will, will,
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will use the what we call the 75th percentile of,
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of observed values when they publish or or put a number into their recommendation
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system.
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So what that means, go ahead, Melissa, 5 minute warning for you.
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Copy that.
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Thank you.
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So what that means if you look at that middle 50% number,
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that typical range of say 85 here in the middle, that is the 75th percentile,
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meaning 75% of observations have a removal rate below that and 25% of
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observations in this project have a value higher than that.
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And and a lot of times the justification for using that number rather than the
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average or some other lower number is to really avoid under fertilizing these
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valuable crops.
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So just wanted to kind of drop that out there.
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But nonetheless, it’s looking like reality is a little
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higher than what’s currently on the books.
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This will maybe not be a surprise to some folks.
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It turns out that soil test potassium is driving a lot of the variation that we
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see in these removal coefficients across the farms in this study.
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So what I’ve done here, you have soil test potassium on the
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horizontal axis and that potassium removal coefficient on the vertical axis.
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That dashed horizontal line, that Gray horizontal line at 60 again is
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the university assumption of of 60 lbs per ton.
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You’ll notice there’s a lot of observations above that 60 lb per ton
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line.
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And and as soil test levels increase, that removal rate generally increases as
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well.
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So interesting trend that I thought I’d point out.
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And, and if we simplify that a little bit, if we take those soil test potassium
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numbers and put them into kind of grouped interpretation classes.
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So I put the very low and the low testing fields in one,
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one bucket here on the left.
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The optimum and high are all grouped together in the middle and then the very
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high and excessively high on the right.
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And you can see that those average removal coefficients are in fact
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different between those soil test interpretation classes.
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And so I think there’s a couple of things that we need to be considering whether
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that’s us as researchers, y’all as farmers or consultants,
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advisors to the farm.
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You know the question that I’m asking and that we’ll ask here internally as we as
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we continue going down this, this path is should we be using different
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removal rate assumptions depending on the field, soil test, potassium level and,
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and to kind of maybe a get at why we might do that is just a really quick
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walkthrough example.
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So what we’re going to do in this little exercise,
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we have a 5 ton yield level and we have 4 different removal rates,
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potassium removal rates along the top ranging from 60,
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our current assumption up to 90, this number 300, 350, 400 450,
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that would be the estimated total amount of K2O removed per acre at those
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different removal rates.
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And then below that is for loamy and sandy soils,
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the expected change in soil test potassium given that five ton yield and
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those different removal coefficients that total K2O uptake.
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And so the point that I’m trying to make here,
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accurate assumptions of K removal in our fertilizer fertility programs is
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extremely important for managing K inputs.
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You can see that we could be seeing a either a 46 or almost a 70 part per
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million reduction in soil test K in one season, depending on which number,
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what removal rate assumption we make.
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All right.
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And again, this this crop removal is the biggest
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single chunk of a fertilizer recommendation.
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And so it’s in our interest to at least be less wrong if we can be.
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So just wanted to kind of show you some of that as as we kick this project off.
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So next steps, keep keep collecting data and compiling
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everything.
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We’ll get postseason soil sample to look at how soil tests responded to that crop
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being produced and any inputs that happen throughout the course of the growing
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season.
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Of course, we’ll look at all of the other nutrients,
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not just potassium.
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We also are going to be asking the the farms to fill out field and management
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survey surveys so we can have all those other little Nuggets of information that
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could potentially help explain what we see.
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And, and so like I said, this project will formally wrap up into
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the calendar year and then there’ll be a lot of outreach and conversations
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happening beyond there.
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So I just want to again, thank the Dairy Innovation Hub for their
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support of this work.
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Doctor Marta Coleman and Luanna again for their support behind the scenes.
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A huge thank you to all of the host farms that are allowing this work to happen.
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And then I wanted to leave on screen by name,
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all of the people that are the actual boots on the ground,
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pulling these samples, maintaining those relationships with our
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host farms, making sure information is getting back
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to them or from them back to us behind the scenes.
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And so huge shout out to all of you.
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None of this would happen without you.
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So with that, thank you so much for your time.
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And I’m also happy to take any questions if we have any.
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